I Think A Die-Off Would Be A Bad Thing
Jun. 4th, 2015 11:36 am![[personal profile]](https://www.dreamwidth.org/img/silk/identity/user.png){kind=small}
marjaerwinI am saddened that some people think a die-off or even an extinction of humanity would be a good thing.
http://discussion.theguardian.com/comment-permalink/53244370
Here someone argues that we should abolish effective medicine, and should "open up the research labs - am sure a few pathogens would be good for the planet - to remove us."
If you're interested in unethical ways to reduce population, forcing billions of people onto birth control would probably be less unethical than killing billions of people through disease.
... Of course, that still violates bodily autonomy, and that would also be targeted at ethnic minorities, disabled minorities, etc. who the ruling class wants to eliminate.
If you're open to potentially-ethical ways, you could encourage people considering having children to take the right hormones at the right times so more people are lesbian, whether cis or trans, and fewer people are likely to have accidental pregnancies.
Of course, in the long run, the earth can't support too many people, ... using too many things, in an economic system which is too unequal and too wasteful. We just shouldn't take the first problem as the only problem. We should also note that racist imperialist anti-immigrant policies are another problem, and aren't a solution to that problem. And, in the short run, global warming, ocean acidification, overfishing, and nuclear weapons, are the urgent threats.
http://discussion.theguardian.com/comment-permalink/53244370
Here someone argues that we should abolish effective medicine, and should "open up the research labs - am sure a few pathogens would be good for the planet - to remove us."
If you're interested in unethical ways to reduce population, forcing billions of people onto birth control would probably be less unethical than killing billions of people through disease.
... Of course, that still violates bodily autonomy, and that would also be targeted at ethnic minorities, disabled minorities, etc. who the ruling class wants to eliminate.
If you're open to potentially-ethical ways, you could encourage people considering having children to take the right hormones at the right times so more people are lesbian, whether cis or trans, and fewer people are likely to have accidental pregnancies.
Of course, in the long run, the earth can't support too many people, ... using too many things, in an economic system which is too unequal and too wasteful. We just shouldn't take the first problem as the only problem. We should also note that racist imperialist anti-immigrant policies are another problem, and aren't a solution to that problem. And, in the short run, global warming, ocean acidification, overfishing, and nuclear weapons, are the urgent threats.
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My population growth-reduction plan consists of:
Date: 2015-06-04 06:10 pm (UTC)2. Open borders: Rich people have fewer children. Income secure people have fewer children. Soeaking of which, we need a...
3. Basic Income, because when having kids is no longer the most attractive pension plan, people in poor countries will have fewer kids. So will people in rich countries for that matter, but to a lesser extent.
4. Alternative energy and agriculture research & subsidy to expand the number of people the planet can support.
5. Maybe get out of this global depression and use the extra trillion in GDP to fund a couple dozen missions to Mars?
The great thing about technological progress is that the population red-line keeps moving away, and we keep slowing our progress towards it... the mid-21st century is gonna be ugly, but ultimately, I think a lot better than most people who are appraised of the major ecological threats, myself included, imagine.