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For example:
https://lithub.com/rebecca-solnit-the-myth-of-real-america-just-wont-go-away/#comment-3896906191
Marja Erwin
If you want to protect hierarchy, and oppose equality, and oppose immigration, that makes you an authoritarian. Not libertarian.
Marja Erwin
> “Who said anything about opposing equality?”
You described this essay, which started with representation for the rest of us, as “incoherent.” You hurl sexist and ableist slurs, as do some of your critics. You write that “You can try this petulant strategy of insulting and disregarding white voters again, but stitching together a vast "coalition” of patronized minority groups already failed in 2016.“So it’s easy to think that you oppose equality.
> "Immigration controls are necessary, and if you contend otherwise you’re unintelligent.”
Hurting peaceful people is necessary? How? For whom?
Marja Erwin
“There’s a reason your input has no place in public policy!”
Do explain.
“Do you want to have a place at the table?”
I want to stop being beaten up for my disabilities.
“Get on board with immigration controls or shut the fuck up about politics permanently. Easy choice!”
I’ll take the third option, the only justifiable option. I will not support violence against peaceful people, violence to enforce white supremacism, and I will not shut up about violence, Racist Authoritarian.
If the price for not being beaten up any more is to let other people be beaten, enslaved, and deported– I cannot support that.
P.S. I may come off like this:
https://www.smbc-comics.com/comics/1499354499-20170706.png
But I don't think I really am like that.
Some people do try to justify the violence. Common arguments for the violence include “we need to stop overpopulation, and allowing immigration will somehow cause overpopulation, so we need to stop immigration,” or “we need to stop border-crossers being killed, and if we escalate the killing, eventually that will stop all crossers, and thus stop the killing,” or “we need to stop border-crossers from being abused by human traffickers, and if we make sure they ca’t come legally and have to turn to human traffickers, that will stop them being abused.”
But I just do not find these arguments convincing.
Most don’t try. Common non-arguments include “might makes right” “you should be silenced,” “you should be forced out of the country” “we need to enforce these laws, and also tighten them, and ignore abuses when enforcing them, because laws.”
https://lithub.com/rebecca-solnit-the-myth-of-real-america-just-wont-go-away/#comment-3896906191
Libertarian
While this white author pens venomous, self-loathing screeds, we are restoring the integrity of our border and arresting liberal plans for a permanent electoral majority through immigration.
Marja Erwin
If you want to protect hierarchy, and oppose equality, and oppose immigration, that makes you an authoritarian. Not libertarian.
Libertarian
Who said anything about opposing equality? I’m all for the meritocracy. Immigration controls are necessary, and if you contend otherwise you’re unintelligent.
Marja Erwin
> “Who said anything about opposing equality?”
You described this essay, which started with representation for the rest of us, as “incoherent.” You hurl sexist and ableist slurs, as do some of your critics. You write that “You can try this petulant strategy of insulting and disregarding white voters again, but stitching together a vast "coalition” of patronized minority groups already failed in 2016.“So it’s easy to think that you oppose equality.
> "Immigration controls are necessary, and if you contend otherwise you’re unintelligent.”
Hurting peaceful people is necessary? How? For whom?
Libertarian
There’s a reason your input has no place in public policy! Do you want to have a place at the table? Get on board with immigration controls or shut the fuck up about politics permanently. Easy choice!
Marja Erwin
“There’s a reason your input has no place in public policy!”
Do explain.
“Do you want to have a place at the table?”
I want to stop being beaten up for my disabilities.
“Get on board with immigration controls or shut the fuck up about politics permanently. Easy choice!”
I’ll take the third option, the only justifiable option. I will not support violence against peaceful people, violence to enforce white supremacism, and I will not shut up about violence, Racist Authoritarian.
If the price for not being beaten up any more is to let other people be beaten, enslaved, and deported– I cannot support that.
P.S. I may come off like this:
https://www.smbc-comics.com/comics/1499354499-20170706.png
But I don't think I really am like that.
Some people do try to justify the violence. Common arguments for the violence include “we need to stop overpopulation, and allowing immigration will somehow cause overpopulation, so we need to stop immigration,” or “we need to stop border-crossers being killed, and if we escalate the killing, eventually that will stop all crossers, and thus stop the killing,” or “we need to stop border-crossers from being abused by human traffickers, and if we make sure they ca’t come legally and have to turn to human traffickers, that will stop them being abused.”
But I just do not find these arguments convincing.
Most don’t try. Common non-arguments include “might makes right” “you should be silenced,” “you should be forced out of the country” “we need to enforce these laws, and also tighten them, and ignore abuses when enforcing them, because laws.”
