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For example:
* If theu have to, to obtain work, housing, etc. and it isn't directly relevant to that work.
* If they have to, all the friggin' time, regardless of whether they have the time and energy, whether they have other things they need to do, whether they have had to deal with the same arguments from six different people in the past day, etc.
* If they have to deal with Gish gallops and other forms of wilful ignorance.
* If the idea depends on subjective experience. It can be hard to explain things to someone who has never had similar experiences, and is quite insistent that there are no such experiences. It can be valid empirical evidence for someone who has had some unusual experiences, and not for someone who doesn't.
* If theu have to, to obtain work, housing, etc. and it isn't directly relevant to that work.
* If they have to, all the friggin' time, regardless of whether they have the time and energy, whether they have other things they need to do, whether they have had to deal with the same arguments from six different people in the past day, etc.
* If they have to deal with Gish gallops and other forms of wilful ignorance.
* If the idea depends on subjective experience. It can be hard to explain things to someone who has never had similar experiences, and is quite insistent that there are no such experiences. It can be valid empirical evidence for someone who has had some unusual experiences, and not for someone who doesn't.
